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Saturday, August 26, 2006

Tancredo says he might run for President-Again

That post headline just makes me ill typing it.

The Pink Flamingo has a post on up on it with all the scoop. Honestly maybe this is a good thing. I think it is time that Tancredo has to deal in some honest debate with people like McCain, Brownback, and Huckabee. They will not fawn all over him like Hannity and Lou Dobbs do.

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Baghdad GI offers Challenge for all "Lets get out of Iraq Folks"

I see a lot of arm chair Generals out there in Blogsphere that say Iraq is a disaster and we have to get out now. Now I know better because I visit the Milblogs over in Iraq each week. However for those that hold that view one guy on my blogroll has a challenge for you.

Open Challenge!

I've decided it's time to step up to the plate and publicly challenge the defeatists. Over a month ago, I published my explanation for why I believe that we're winning the war in Iraq and I now issue a challenge so listen up: prove me wrong. I'm willing to debate those who can present a logical explanation for why we're losing the war and should their explanation top mine I'm willing to admit my wrongs.Here is my request; whenever you hear or read someone who thinks that the war in Iraq is going badly or being lost, send them to me. Put up a link to this post and tell them they better bring their "A" game.I want this challenge to reach as many of the defeatists as possible and ask for the readers of this blog to assist me in reaching them. I haven't spent much time looking for defeatist websites (mainly because I get it shoved down my throat by the MSM), so if you know of any please send me a link so I can properly introduce them to the truth. I know that I'm making myself a target with this challenge and I'm very willing to do so because I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are in fact winning this war.

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What is happening on by blogroll

Time to do another roundup on what my blogroll is doing. I shall also highlight what people are saying about hurricane Katrina and that anniversary

A view from the Evil Center blog is doing a good bit of work highlighting hurricane Katrina including taking us back to day by day weather reports. It is indeed chilling looking at those reports again. He also had a post on Wednesday about Katrina Heros at the Superdome. He is going to be talking more about these various heros. I am glad he is doing that. A lot went wrong during that tragic storm , but I tell you a hell of a lot went right. This is postive stuff that we need.

Between the Lines takes the Blanco administration to task for their Post Katrian efforts.

Big Lizards has a great post on the Subs that the State of Israel is buying from the Germans. This will be a important part of a term I prayed I never thought I would have hear again. That is MAD-mutual assured destruction. Well, if the world lets Iran get the bomb there is really no choice.

Cajun Tiger, our Lousiana guy in IRAQ has a great post on Wal-Mart facts. I am glad he doing this. I couldnt believe my eyes last week when I saw Sen Biden at an anti walmart rally. What a goof

Done with Mirrors has some thoughts and is asking for help understanding this weirdness the Democrats did in Alabama as to a gay candidate they disqualified. I am going to research this also. I find this extrremely odd and it sounds something weird is going on down there. If you are from Bama leave a comment on her site. Dont worry if I find any kookiness as to this I shall yell it from the mountains.

By the way, Only one Freakin week till LSU football. You know where I will be. Freakin Mississippi urgggg. I will be searching any Sports bar in the delta that might have the game on. I doubt any people in Mississippi Delta will want to watch that on ESPN Gameday. ANy way thank God some of our players are clearing the NCAA Clearing house. Go to Tigersmack here and here for the latest.

We Saw That links another idiotic Katrina conspiracy theory. Guess who was behind the levee's failing. Zionist Casino owners!!!! Good grief. Kudos to we saw that for pointing out this insanity. I am going to speak on this later and talk about how these conspiracy theories are dangerous and in fact hurt real people and communities. By the way Spike Lee is a idiot. There is a special place in hell for those that profit off tragedy like this and sow discord for bucks.

There is much more on my blogroll so check them out. There are a few I shall be highlighting in seperate post. But time is running out and have to run to Mass. Please pray that this dangerous storm in the Gulf does not hit Louisiana. We are not in the position to take another one this soon.

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Minutegate / American Caging Update

Well time for our weekly update on that mysterious and infamous Caging Firm out of the Houston/Stafford area. We were told oh almost a month back that American Caging's problems were all some Govt paperwork snafu and would be corrected prompty.

Well at the end of the business day and the business week we find

Company Information:
Registered Agent:
Registered Agent Resignation Date:
State of Incorporation:
File Number:
Charter/COA Date:
April 4, 1991
Charter/COA Type:
Taxpayer Number:

I must say to the employess of American Caging, I have enjoyed your comments and emails. Please continue.

I will try to put a Minuteman/ Minutegate update up this weekend. I had to take a few days away from it because of some other matters I had to attend too.

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Friday, August 25, 2006

Good Article on Governor Huckabee-- 08 Contender

Mike Huckabee President 2008 has a great article from the National Journal on Governor Huckabee. Like I posted below I am leaning toward him or Senator Brownback for 08. I think the article hits it right on the head why I think Huckabee might explode out of Iowa and the early primaries.
I have a certain theory. I suspect that conservatives and Republicans will have enough of this "nastiness" and over the top rethoric come the Iowa Primary elections. People are getting tired of all this RINO talk every few seconds. I think Huckabee might be found to be the antedote to that. He also can be a winner in the general.

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A Update on The Republican Presidential Primary In Iowa

Yeah, I know you saw that headline and went "yawn". Well for those 2 of you that are interested like me in what the people who are trying to to get the job of the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD you have come to the right place . I have been keeping my eye on things and so today we have


First let me say I think this is a tad early for a state fair. I thought state fairs were suppose to be in the fall. HMM maybe it is a Iowa thing. Anywho it is a big event and most everyone that hopes to be Prez makes an appearance.

Krusty Konservative Blog brings us his observations-

Some good info on the above as I am sure you all visted his nice site. I must say I was disappointed that Gov.Mike Huckabee didnt make a appearance. That seems sort of not a smart move but hell it is still early. I think of big interest is again signs of how well Governor Pataki seems to be doing in Iowa. Again I am hoping to see more signs of organization by Brownback in Iowa soon. As yyou can tell I am leaning toward Huckabee or Brownback. But still have not ruled out McCain and maybeeeeeee Romney. also Sorry I don't get all giddy like so many people do when Newt makes a appearance and utters his latest wisdom. I like him but please he couldnt get elected President. I am not into all these let me bring "issues to the table" campaigns.

On the bright side Tom"Our Dear Leader" Tancredo did not make a appearance. Thank God for small favors, let us hope that trend continues.

Oh, while we are on the topic of Iowa, a certain newspaper has still not printed my letter to the editor as to their shortsighted views on Louisiana and Offshore Oil revenue sharing. Well perhaps they are waiting to put it in the big Sunday edition.

If you are interested in Iowa Prez things go check this soon to be new edition to my blogroll. That is The Caucus Cooler . Cool site. His latest entry is on how all the Senator Allen mess plays out in Iowa and who gains from it. I tend to think like he does and believe that Romney and Huckabee do. A few words on Allen. No I don't want to get into the comment thing, I have done that a thousand times on forums it seems.During the last month I noticed something interesting. It seems for no apparent reason, Allen was getting bashed on several Conservative forums. This was way before the whole "Macaca thing". I saw similar comments on the blogs. There seemed to be a effort to make him some big liberal/rino/ not true conservative etc etc. I just wonder what underground political internet marketing firm was behind that and more importantly who paid them.

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Thursday, August 24, 2006

Idiotic Anti Immigration Quote of the Day

Ever since I got this Technorati thing to work, I have noticed that my hits have gone up. So it appears despite all the pulling out of hair over getting that system to recognize this blog exist, it seems to be worth it.One of my favorite topics as people who visit here know is the whole illegal immigration/immigration debate.

Yesterday I was having a conversation with a prolife leader in the Diocese. I waa basically asking her to consider that the Conservative part of the Republican party is lying in bed with some very unsavory people(From a Pro-life point of view) in this immigration debate. At the start of this whole thing all I heard was "we are not against legal immigration only illegal". Well after about a month of study and research I realized that was completely false as to the leaders and many in the movement. The people that have been the driving voice behind this debate are Population control fanatics. This is of course the John Tanton Groups. His offspring incluse all those organizations that send us those wonder blast emails each day. That is F.A.I.R, CIS, and NumbersUSA. Often we see spokesman for CIS on the news shows. Well that is great but I do get a tad upset that they are portrayed as some unbiased source. They are not.

Now the tone is starting to change and the true goals are coming out. Last night I saw this jewel.

On the site Protect Arizona this statement-

Today I saw the most chilling thing I've seen in years -- a map of Australia juxtaposed over a map of the U.S., with the caption: Australia is the same size as the U.S., but only has a population of 19 million, compared to the U.S.'s 290.million.

Well perhaps the population control marketing people are out on vacation but this statement is pretty silly. I suppose that if the 90 percent of the United States was unliveable and about as barren as Death valley, the above would be chilling. This argument makes as much sense as superimposing a map of Antarctica on a map of the USA and trying to make a comparision in population. There are a thousand instances of this that one sees on this anti- illegal immigration webs sites all day(By the way I think we are all anti illegal immigration). Basically as can be seen on their web sites, they want to reduce the population of the USA to 150 million people.

Anyway, that is why I often focus on this issue because I think reducing the population of the USA to 150 million quite frankly is a pretty horrible idea. I am not sure with Western Europe, Japan, and even Latin American Countries with bith rates dropping like a stone that this is a adviseable. Especially since in Countries where Radical Islam is they are breeding like Rabbits. One must ask the question who the hell is going to fund and man the armies etc etc.

Now before everyone goes off on me, these are issues that we will have to confront in our lifetime. Hate to offend Pat Buchanan, but I have more concerns than if my possible future descendants may be tad browner that me. Ahh but I forget the Mexicans are the Barbarians at the gate. Well besides being pretty offensive that is not true. The barbarians at the gate at the ones that explode Car bombs and think nuking cities would be a grand idea.

So next up a little look at Pat's horrid little book.

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A Mom Of One Our Hero's On Iraq

Tip of the Hat to Hedgehog blog for this pointing this out. I was thinking our people fighting the War on Terror tonight and I saw this tonight. Needless to say beside the chills it gives you, it makes you stop and think. Thank you Marine Lance Corporal Galvez.

From: Amy Galvez To: Subject: Mayor Anderson and Cindy Sheehan Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:00:02 -0700 (PDT)

Once again, it is time for the voices of military families to be heard. As the time approaches for Mayor Rocky Anderson, joined by Cindy Sheehan, to raise their voices and denounce the job my son and other servicemen are doing, I cannot remain silent. I understand that many people do not support the war in Iraq, the global war on terror. Many would rather wait until something happens here at home and deal with it then. That is fine to have that opinion. What is not fine, is an elected official speaking to the world and condemning the job our service men and women are doing. But, it hits closer to home than that. My son, who is a resident of Salt Lake City, is now in Iraq. He was sent there by the United States to do a job. The Mayor of Salt Lake City will grab headlines by speaking out against the job my son, a resident of his city, is doing. I know that Mayor Anderson says he supports the troops but not the war. You cannot say you support the troops and tell the world that what they are doing is wrong. Mayor Anderson's words will play worldwide This will be seen on Aljazeera TV and throughout the communities where America is hated. I believe that the words of Mayor Anderson, as well as other elected officials who speak out against our military and their mission, in essence, give support and momentum to the enemy. This, in turn, puts the lives or our sons, fighting on our behalf, in greater jeopardy. I heard it appropriately put by Tammy Bruce, who said "when you make the world mad at the Marines, it is easier to kill them." My belief is that American lives have been lost in this war because the enemy has been emboldened by our own words, actions and lack of support for our own mission. America will always be hated by many throughout the world. That won't change. Regardless of your politics, supporting our military, who is mostly made up of very young American volunteers, should be our foremost concern. Mayor Anderson should go before the cameras and say thank you to every American troop, especially those from Salt Lake, for their heroic duty instead of undermining their efforts. Amy Galvez, Proud American and Very Proud Marine Mom .

Of course that email is not the end of the story.

Galvez was still sitting at her computer when she heard a car door close outside her northwest Salt Lake City home. Peering through the window, she saw two Marines coming up the walk. .Adam Galvez, 21, was killed Sunday in Iraq's volatile Al Anbar province in a roadside bomb attack that claimed the life of two other members of his battalion.....Read more at this link

Post Katrina Louisiana Politics

I posted the part of the Shreveport Forum Article below. I wanted to devote one post to the interesting facts that are his article. Mr Burnett has some interesting stats that seem to go against the conventional wisdom. The Conventional wisdom is that because so much of New Orleans has gone out of State because of Katrina then its Republican Time in this State. However look at the Stats

When the Governors election was held in 2003 we had the following stats"
2,767,782 registered voters
67 percent white
29 percent black
57 percent Dem
23 percent Repub
20 percent Indep/other

Now as of July 28th 2006
2,868,856 registered voters
66 percent white
29 percent black
4 percent other races
54 percent Dems
24 percent Republicans
22 percent Indep/others

Now it does appear that the percentages have not changed much. Thus as Mr Burnett states: Don't count Blanco out!! I agree. Even though I still think it is Jindals to lose, to occupy the mansion in Baton Rouge, like Blanco does, by itself makes her a force to be counted.

A few thoughts. I still think the Democrats are in big trouble. First, many of these registered voters are gone to other states. I doubt that there has been much purging of the voter rolls in Katrina affected areas. SO the above numbers do not show that. The key worry that the Dems have is this. The get out the vote machine in NOLA is gone and the results of the last Mayorial race in New Orleans. After all that outreach that was conducted to get Nawlins Expats to vote the turnout needless to say was horrible. If New Orleans residents are not going to vote in big numbers for that race, are they going to get that excited about the Governors race? I think not. If those numbers hold as to turnout of New Orleans registered voters Blanco as well as other State wide elected Dems are in trouble. I am not sure how they make up the deficit.

A few caveats here. The entire World down there did not move to Houston. Many went to Baton Rouge, Shreveport ,Lafayette, and other places in state. So Blanco can still count on those Democrat voters. Also there is a down side for the Repubs. That is where are all the St Bernard parish voters? In some ways they got it worse than New Orleans did. Where have all the LakeView residents gone? Lakeview is of course the New Orleans Republican Bastion. A argument can be made because of education and employment factors that these voters are in fact in other states at far greater percentages than the the typical black Dem voter of New Orleans. Again I think its too early to tell how this has all shaken out. Mr Burnett's other observations are right own. THe New Orleans delegation will be weakened greatly. Baton Rouge will in all likelihood become the center of legislative power in the State.

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The Bobby Jindal lost because of North Louisiana Racists Myth Continues

This comes from a article dealing primarily with post Louisiana Katrina politics by political Columinist Lou Gehrig Burnett. It appeared in Shreveport news weekly the Forum(Not available online). I shall talk about his other statements in the next post. I do take exception that he appear to be endorsing a theory that for some reason that is now taken as Gospel. That is Bobby Jindal lost the Governor's race against Blanco because North Louisiana folks would not vote for someone that was dark skinned. I continue to say that this utter nonsense.

Burnett says -"There is no doubt Jindal will be a formidable foe. The big question is whether his ethnicity will play a role this time as it did in 2003. In 12 of the so called "David Duke Parishes" in north and central Louisiana(Duke carried all 12 in his races against Edwin Edwards for Governor and Bennett Johnston for US Senate), Jindal won only four of them while Blanco won Eight. Those Parishes are basically rural and Conservative".

This theory largely became gospel because a political science Prof from LSU said it was true in his study. All the national media picked it up so because that happen it became fact basically.

I don't want go to go to much into this but this is wrong wrong wrong.

Why did Blanco do so well in North Louisiana? Because she out worked Bobby Jindal pure and simple. Also she was well liked. Blanco also took advantage of the fact that many North Louisiana voters feel they get ignored by the generally State Wide elected officals who now are most of the time from South Louisiana.

Before Blanco we had a Governor by the names of Mike Foster. Mike Foster rarely even came to visit this part of the State that he governed. In his last four years as Governor he visted the area only 4 times and that was just in Shreveport. His time he spent here could be measured in hours. That was noticed by Republican and Democrat alike. Blanco was had been Lt Governor for 8 years seemed to live here. She is from Lafayette but it seems I couldn't open the paper and not see her at some local event or writing a Column in like the FORUM. She was often at event thats regular people were putting on. She appeared at events the Highland Neighborhood association would put on for goodness sakes. This was when we could barely get Foster to do a flyover of the area. You do that for 8 years and that pays dividends. I was a Jindal voter. But even I felt a little guilt voting against Blanco. Why? Because it was hard not to vote for her so to award the appreciation she had for this part of the State. After a while if a politican shows up at enough events and says "good job" and "I love (insert town or locale) "that adds ups in the vote column after a while. Especially if you have been doing it for 8 years.

The above is important especially when you add the fact that she got votes because of her gender(believe it or not I heard "I think its time for a Woman" more than "I am not voting for a Indian) . Also it must be noted that Blanco was not viewed as some Liberal. She was and still is a Conservative Democrat. In reality, Blanco and Jindal shared a good many positions. Further Bobby Jindal did not respond to an ad in the closing weeks that basically said Jindal had and was going to cut all the funding for the Charity hospitals. An ad that ran 24/7 it seemed. Blanco was always in the top two contenders for Governor all year long. Bobby Jindal started the race at like 2 percent in the polls. I rarely heard about Bobby's race but I did hear concerns about his young age.

One other thing to note? Why is this always framed as the "racist white rednecks". Believe it or not there are black folks up here. Quite a few of them. Blanco got 85 to 90 percent of that vote. But when this question is framed, it is framed as all those racist rednecks in North Louisiana. Why is that? One other thing that must be remembered. This area is conservative but it is not "Tom Delay" conservative. There has been and still is a sort of Blue Dog democrat populist feel to huge areas here. Also Shreveport that is often viewed as a conservative city is a tad more liberal in reality than is commonly portrayed. Those where Blanco voters. ALL this worked to Blanco's advantage.

However none of the above is mentioned. One fact of that race that should be considered. There was a Democrat from North Louisiana that ran named Randy Ewing. Ewing was a democrat but a conservative one. I have the highest regard for Ewing and he would have made a fine Governor. Ewing though could not break Blanco's hold on this area. In any other year, I suspect Ewing would have carried these parishes. However Blanco was so popular that she took more votes than he did. In North Louisiana!!!!! However such complicated analysis of these other factors are never considered or even mentioned. I suppose I know of these factors because when I was volunteering for Bobby, that I saw all the above up close and personal. It is time that this myth die or at least be questioned.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006

NBC Nightly News In St Louis

Well, I am watching and so far no interview of the Blogmeister of the Council of Conservative Citizens St Louis. Not even a expose of the Vatican of the extreme paleoconservative movement? Whats up with that Blogmeister? Perhaps next time. Maybe even yalls National Convention. All they talked about was how if a person gives an illegal alien shelter in this town of Vally something or the other south of St Louis you are going to get fined.

You see a family without shelter with kids.They are illegal or are mixed in legal/illegal status. Maybe even American kids because they were born here. Might not like Birthright citizenship but it is the law of the land now. So you see them suffering? Lets say you know them and in fact they have attended your Church well you fellowship together. Do you take them in for a couple of nights ? Does it matter if the elements outside are really bad? I realize no Christian can change the World or has to take in everyone. But perhaps some of us are going to have to decide if there is a higher law in certain indivdual cases. Even if we get prosecuted for it if we decide it is. Tough questions and I am not sure I know all the answers. I am hoping we are not put in a position to find out how we would act. Some people will view it as the Law is the Law. Some others will view it in terms of people who hid fugative slaves even though it is against the law. I don't advocate breaking the law. But again does a higher law in individual cases come into play? Tough questions.

Shall the next few years be the new era of Dred Scott? We shall see. Just thoughts I had as I was watching that show.

Romney Trouble

Called As Seen has a good post on some of the grief that Romnsy is getting up in Michigan. Called as Seen speculates it is not abortion that is the problem but perhaps his Mormon Faith. I still lean toward is his conversion on the abortion issue is till the problem. If I remember right his dad was heavily onvolved in politics in Michigan. The Mormon issue has not exploded yet. I suspect somebody inportant will make a statement on it that will cause massive headlines for a week. I still lean that it will not hurt him in the end.

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A Tribute to The Dear Leader Tom Tancredo

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You might not have noticed but Tancredo has a little blog. It is a blog that is supported by our Tax Dollars. Well I think blogs are great. I think it would be great for more Congressmen to blog. However one notices this note on his blog:

(Please Note: Blog entries are reviewed and not all messages will be posted)

Well lets say after reviewing this taxpayer supplied blog and the comments that were there( and more importantly the comments that I am sure were deleted) , I was reminded of another famous politician that does such things as use precious resources on his own praise.

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Thank you, Rep. Tancredo, for protecting our border with Mexico. We don't know how many terrorists are crossing the border, along with the illegals from Mexico. Sure wish you were our Rep. Sincerely, Dee.

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"George Will Opinion in The Nashville Tennessean October 10, 2005 . . . . I do not believe 95% of Americans care whether their president is "some tall guy with good hair". I believe Americans want leaders with character, leaders who are honest, leaders who have integrity, leaders who represent the people and not just the special interest groups. Mr. Tancredo should reconsider and run for president of the United States!"

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You are a hero!

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Thanks for your efforts on border control. I have written the President and my representatives here in New Jersey trying to inspire them to seal the borders and deport illegal aliens. I support your thinking on border control and would like to encourage other Representatives to support it. Could you e-mail or post a list of supporters so I, and others, might cheer them on.

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Congressman TancredoYou give us hope, just knowing you have the courage to speak to the issues that most in power do not seem to want talked about.I want you to know many of us stand with you especially on this illegal immigration going on and allowed to happen.My prayers will be that the Lord of all mankind will keep you strong.

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Sir, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! I read the statement on "Birthright Citizenship" and am very pleased and relieved to see someone has the same idea. I am convinced this is a large factor into why our immigration policies have failed. As a former resident of you district, I saw this first hand more than once. Keep up the great work. M.D.

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Dear Congressman,I am not in your district, however, I am impressed and energized with your unwavering, strong stance on several issues. The issue at hand this time is illegal immigration/homeland securtity (the two go hand in hand). Thank you for being a voice for many. I did write Sen. Bennett from Utah expressing my disbelief in his legal manuevering. Where are his priorities? We are Americans, first. Our forefathers did not fight for us to be so careless with our freedom. Thank you for your strong leadership. Washington, Hancock, Franklin and the boys would be proud of you.

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I agree completely, and I agree with much else that you have on this page. I wish I was one of your constituents so I could vote for you. Keep up the good work.

Wow, I glad we live in a Country where leaders don't use much needed funds and resources on themselves instead of the populance and engage in orgies of adulation like you know where. OH and the notallowing any questioning as to ideas or possible misgivings about any part of his agenda on his Govt supported blog is great too.

Anywho, Remember even though the Dear Leader thinks he is God of the Republican Party he is not. He is just one little ole Congressman that bullys other conservatives if they even question him or his policies a bit. HE is a bully that in his spare time appears with people like Jerome Corsi that go on the old Art bell show and spreads and adopts conspiracy theories between the segments on Alien abductions and astral projection. Congressman Cannon and President Bush beat him back so despite what his adoring masses think he aint the new Lincoln of the Party. It is time to tell the Dear Leader that told our President to sit home and shut up to remember he is a Congressman from Colorado and not the Speaker or any big cheese yet. He is just someone that helps promote and encourage anti Catholic Conspiracy theories. That doesn't mind if his PAC Chairman speaks on extremist and racist talk shows. That hides the fact that he associates with people that are radical population control freaks and he himself promotes wild population control theories. In fact as to those radical almost Al Gore like beliefs as they say a picture is worth a thousands words.

Just remember what the Wall street Journal had to say
"So determined is conservatism's nativist wing that it's even made common cause with radical environmentalists and zero-population-growth fanatics on the leftist fringe. The Federation for American Immigration Reform and the Center for Immigration Studies may strike right-wing poses in the press, but both groups support big government, mock federalism, deride free markets and push a cultural agenda abhorrent to any self-respecting social conservative."
March 15, 2004

Thanks Tom. Oh and also he broke he word to the voters on Term Limits. HE by the way was past Chairman of Colorado Term Limits. He came to power because of that. Oh well so Sorry.

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The Truth will be told

This idea was ripped off by what I found at an another anti Tancredo Blog-

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Boudreaux the Baptist

Boudreaux the Baptist (FROM Grammy Kay's Parlor blog)

Boudreaux, a Cajun highlander from Rapides Parish in central Louisiana, was an older, single gentleman, who was born and raised a Baptist, living in South Louisiana. Each Friday night after work, he would fire up his outdoor grill and cook a venison steak. Now, all of Boudreaux's neighbors were Catholic... and since it was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Fridays. The delicious aroma from the grilled venison steaks was causing such a problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest.

The priest came to visit Boudreaux, and suggested that Boudreaux convert to Catholicism. After several classes and much study, Boudreaux attended Mass... and as the priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said, "You were born a Baptist and raised a Baptist, but now you are Catholic." Boudreaux's neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the wonderful aroma of grilled venison filled the neighborhood.

The priest was called immediately by the neighbors and, as he rushed into Boudreaux's yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped in amazement and watched. There stood Boudreaux, clutching a small bottle of water which he carefully sprinkled over the grilling meat, and chanted: "You wuz born a deer, and you wuz raised a deer, but now you a catfish

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Libertarian Discord in California over Gilchrist, the Minutemen, and Immigration

Something very interesting is playing out in California among the Libertarians.

Often we here the real hardliners scream that anyone that supports a comprehensive approach is a member of this mythical "open border lobby". That of course is pretty much BS.
Now there two groups that I suppose would agree with the concept of "open borders". One is the very liberal progressives. When you see people holding up signs or saying things such as "There is no such thing as Illegal" that probally represents that camp. It is a extreme point of view and does not have much power politic wise. The econd group is much more interesting to me. That is the Libertarians. Traditional Liberatarains ,though not as extreme as liberal progressives, view that borders should not hamper the free flow of labor and commerce. However, the immigration debate has seemed to show that there are two further divisions or factions espousing a different view. First, there are the pragmatic Libertarians. The Pragmatics seem to realize that 100 percent purity on the party line in all things only results in them not getting any political gain. On immigration, they seem in my view to take a reasonable sane approach. From what I am seeing that involves real border security , a sensible immigration policy, recognizing the benefits of free trade, and realizing that a deport/starve every illegal policy will not work. However there is another faction It is a faction that seems to have been quite incluenced by the most radical of paleoconservatives. Their immigration policy mirrors Tancredos. They hate and rant against NAFTA,CAFTA, etc. Often one hears all this "amero" and "North America Union" , and "Nafta Superhighway" conspiracy talk from this facton. SO that is the background to the latest developments in California

Minuteman ♥s Libertarian Party Candidate-
Well Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman Project has endorsed Art Oliver the Libertarian Canidate for Governor. By the way GilChrist is currently a Republican. I say currently because keeping track of Gilchrist views on other issues besides immigration is quite a tiresome task. He really has no loyalty to party it seems or other issues. Well I will leave that to another day.. This link has the story as well as some good comments. Needless to say this has caused a great deal of turmoil in the Libertarian community in California. I agree that it should. This blogger is one of quite a few in California that are Libertarian that are rasing concerns. I do not agree with the policy of open borders. But in this day of people wanting to make a Fortress American as to immigration and trade, the Libertarian voice nneds to be heard. Not downplayed or sold for votes. Perhaps we shall hear at least from the Pragmatic wing of the party yet to give us some sanity.

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Irrational Bush Hatred AND Arrogance of the Elite Left

The Anchoress has a great post deal with how again the liberal elites are treating with disdain the President of the United States. Is this over economic policy? Is this over his vision of where America should be going as to our trade relations? Perhaps a issue of foreign policy? No , they are attacking the President over what is on his reading list this summer. Actaully they think the President might be getting over his head. What arrogance. Please go read It’s really petty to resent what a man reads… by the Anchoress. She hits it right on the head and points out the stunning reality of what they really are.

However there is more to it than just a extreme dislike toward Bush. It is typical of a viewpoint that many of this mindset have toward countless numbers of their own countrymen. That view is that since these people are conservatives and Republicans , then they must be all poor uncultured and uneducated idiots. At times I wonder if these people every travel anywhere in this Country outside places where they can live in the safety of their cocoons.

We have seen this before on display. The 2004 Republican Convention is case study number 1. I often don't get my feeling hurt in campaigns. But I will admit, I personally was hurt by how some New Yorkers viewed us. This changed though after some of the Louisiana delegates came back from that convention. They told me in no certain terms that tons of New Yorkers came up to them and told them that this was not how the average citizen of that great city viewed their fellow citizens. Lets take a trip down memory lane.

The 2004 Republican Convention-
The New York Magazine was offender number in many cases. There articles that even tried to have a tone of fairness in it also was sure to have tons of righteous ridicule for the us poor rubes. Here is there Convention Coverage. New York magazine also was famous for the running all the pictures of the Republicans. Except they took the worst pictures that were shot and put them in the magazine. That sort of set the tone. It was mean spirted and petty. The question is why did they even think this was funny? A left Blogger of course knew the joke:
Apparently, some feel New York didn't use the most flattering pictures of GOPers in the magazine's special convention issue....why doesn't anyone realize that the Republicans are ugly no matter how you present them?-

Yep hahah. Why does this make me think of those horrid days that all of us kids went through when were made fun of because of our looks and thus had no self worth and were stupid. However that was one of many high browed things that were coming out of New York liberal elite press. I often wondered during that time if they were aware the rest of the country has something called the "internet" and that we were reading it also.

Of course during the election it got worse and after the election the same people in DC, New York, and other Liberal enclaves had a temper tantrum. Remember all that stuff on made up electoral maps about "jesusland". I thought Kaus at Slate had it right when he noted:
Friday, November 5, 2004
Like Marlon Perkins, Tim Russert explains President Bush's appeal in the "so-called red states" to Tom Brokaw and the Bo-Wash corridor:
They can see him in his jeans and his swagger and his belt buckle, a lot of things a lot of people in--in the Northeast would laugh at. But they identify with it. And, Tom, they will say that their i--their connection with him on the issue of values and as a man of faith was much more important to them than the state of the economy or the war in Iraq. [Emphasis added]

1) Not the most condescending thing that has been said about the red states. But pretty condescending! Doesn't Russert have to get, you know, ratings? Do red state viewers (or Bush voters generally) actually like watching Tim Russert? Hard to believe.

2) Would these mystifying red people actually "say" that their connection with Bush on faith and values is more important than the major issues facing the country? Russert suggests they're so blinded by faith they'd vote for Bush even if everything was manifestly going to hell. ... Wouldn't "they" maybe "say" that the economy isn't in such bad shape--as is, in fact, true--and maybe the war in Iraq isn't in such irrevocably bad shape either? Haven't they, in fact, just said that? 11:38 P.M.

Of course this was just a small taste. People that write the columns attacking George Bush's reading list and making snide comments hate the fact that the "common folk" in the country actually get a say in things. So they cover that up by making more self revealing comments than they know about the smarts of the rest of us. Especially conservatives.

Just a little trip down memory lane again, to show what is behind all this. From the National Review Back in Novemember 2004.
Today's American Left is largely responsible for the division they so loudly condemn. They have every right to chide President Bush's policies, lament his reelection, and propose better ideas. Instead, the Left throws parched logs onto the national political bonfire, then curses the ensuing flames.Consider just a few things the Bush haters have said since Election Day:

"F#$@ the South. F#$@ 'em," reads a widely circulated on-line screed posted at f#$ (The actual web address contains letters rather than symbols.) "We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves—yeah, those are states we want to keep.""Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bull*?<+ and shove it up your a%&.And no, you can't have your f#$@ing convention in New York next time. F#$@ off." Is this how tolerant liberals celebrate diversity?
The November 5 Wall Street Journal cited these deep thoughts from a weblog called "Punk Voter:" "Senator Kerry said [November 3] that now we need to come together and heal as a nation. F*** that. There's no f****** way I am going to come together with these homophobic, flag-waving, god-fearing, gun-toting, uneducated, isolationist, ethnocentric REDNECKS."

An "adoption notice" e-mailed around the country shows the Democratic blue states beside the headline "Free to a good country." The mock ad continues, "Educated and intelligent population. Gets along well with others. Pretty. Wants to get out of an abusive relationship with current owner and inbreeding red cousins. Open to all sane democracies."Another Internet graphic shows the blue states linked to our northerly neighbor in the "United States of Canada." The red states in between are described as "Jesusland."While these vulgar, secessionist sentiments could be dismissed as the bile-fueled grumbling of disgruntled College Democrats, listen to veteran Democratic political consultant Bob Beckel. -"I think now that slavery is taken care of, I'm for letting the South form its own nation," Beckel recently declared on Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends. "Really, I think they ought to have their own confederacy."-MSNBC commentator

Lawrence O'Donnell—a former staffer to the late senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D., N.Y.) and co-creator of NBC's The West Wing—told The McLaughlin Group this on the weekend after the election: "The segment of the country that pays for the federal government is now being governed by the people who don't pay for the federal government...Some would say, 'Oh, poor Alabama. It's cut off from the wealth infusion that it gets from New York and California'...But the more this political condition goes on at the presidential level of the red and blue states, the more you're testing the inclination of the blue states to say, 'So what?'"The November 9 Washington Times reported that Canada's immigration information website usually gets 20,000 U.S. hits daily. The day John Kerry conceded, that number rocketed to 115,016 before easing back to 65,803 November 4, still triple the normal figure. If a democratic election's losers ponder emigration, does that make the winners divisive? Does anyone truly believe that if John Kerry had prevailed, Republicans would advocate seceding from blue America? How many Republicans would consider moving say, to the low-tax, relatively pro-life Republic of Ireland?

Another theme of the divisive Left is the supposed idiocy of red states and their inhabitants. It starts, naturally, with President Bush. The Left depicts him as a doddering fool. Yet, somehow, this airheaded cowboy has defeated them in two elections. This hardly demonstrates the Left's brilliance.One Internet posting ranks the 50 states by IQ. The higher-IQ states supported Kerry, starting with Connecticut (average IQ 113). These figures plunge to pro-Bush Mississippi, with its 85 average intelligence quotient.If these numbers are legitimate, they raise interesting questions:Were Louisiana and South Carolina, both blue states, dumb over the last six years when they elected Democrats John Breaux, Mary Landrieu (in 2002), and Ernest Hollings to the U.S. Senate, or did they suddenly grow stupid this year?And how about Colorado's pro-Bush voters? They also elected Democrat Ken Salazar to the U.S. Senate on November 2, rather than Republican Peter Coors. So, were they simultaneously sharp and dimwitted?"South Dakota's IQ must have dropped for them to stop voting for Democrat Tom Daschle and switch to Republican John Thune," says Mitch Baxter, an Arlington, Virginia attorney and member of the Republican Jewish Coalition "They were in the bottom 10 this time. There was no massive immigration of dodos or emigration of geniuses, so there must be some kind of environmental toxin that caused brain damage. Quick, get the EPA!"Hollywood acted divisively, too. Whoopi Goldberg regaled a July 8 Kerry fundraiser with gynecological double entendres involving the president's surname. Julia Roberts said "'Republican' comes in the dictionary just after 'reptile' and just above 'repugnant.'" Cameron Diaz announced on Oprah September 29 that if Bush were reelected, "we could lose the right to our bodies.... If you think that rape should be legal, then don't vote."

Few things divide more quickly than invoking the Nazis. Yet the Left repeatedly detonated this rhetorical A-bomb., for instance, famously displayed an online ad comparing President Bush to Adolf Hitler.-The August 30 Time magazine quoted Ithaca College assistant professor Charles Venator Santiago. He complained that when he explains conservative philosophy to his introductory political-science class, I am teaching Hitler.

"-For two years now, bumper stickers have spelled the president's name "B-U-[swastika]-H."-NAACP president Julian Bond doubled down last June 23 when he compared Republicans to both the old South and National Socialism. He said, "Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and Confederate swastika flying side by side."Perhaps worse than "Nazi" are the other N-words.-A blogger named the Rude Pundit, who boasts about "proudly lowering the level of political discourse," called your humble commentator National Review's "house negro." Imagine the justifiable outrage if I or any other center-right commentator called Alan Colmes "the Fox News Channel's resident Jew?"

-Leftist cartoonist Ted Rall created a July 5 illustration which shows Secretary of State Designate Condoleezza Rice at an "inner-city racial re-education camp." She says, "I was Bush's beard! His house n*gga..."-As the black free-market organization,

Project 21, has documented, "Doonesbury" cartoonist Garry Trudeau recently referred to Rice as "Brown Sugar." The mainstream Universal Press Syndicate distributes Rall and Trudeau.

-On November 17, WTDY (Madison, Wisconsin) radio host John "Sly" Sylvester called Rice "Aunt Jemima" and (current) Secretary of State Powell "Uncle Tom." He also complained about "the illusion of inclusion," as if Bush's appointment of two consecutive black Americans to the nation's oldest and most prestigious Cabinet agency were no big whoop.-"There are those house slaves who lived on the plantation, and there were those slaves who lived in the house," Left-wing calypso singer
Harry Belafonte explained in October 2002. "Colin Powell was permitted to come into the house of the master."To count beans briefly—combining Powell, Housing Secretary Alphonso Jackson, and (outgoing) Education Secretary Rod Paige—Bush's Cabinet is a fifth black, exceeding by one half America's 13-percent black population. For this, black liberals give Bush zero credit. But if he had no minority secretaries, these exact, same people would slam Bush for having a lily-white Cabinet.Disgusting name-calling aside, Democrats pursued policies over the last four years that were at least as divisive as Bush's.

You see when we are dealing with people that take time out to ridicule the President for the ten thousandth time this must be remembered. They don't realize that Martin Sheen isn't the President. He just played one on TV. Also the way that Republicans and Conservatives and well just plain political life that was portrayed on the West Wing is that way because it is marketed toward their demographic.

I remember this post from the blogger MaxedoutMamma back in Nov 2004. The Anchoress post makes me think this is just as revelant as it was back then:

Nor were the slams, the extreme allegations, and the rage confined to the sideline organizations and chat groups. No. In the south, we're talking about people like Madelaine Albright, who speculated that Bush had Osama Bin Laden stashed away somewhere and would produce him right before the elections. We're talking about all the rumors that capturing Saddam Hussein was a fake - that the US had had him for months and had produced him when it was politically convenient to do so. We're talking about Senator Joe Biden announcing that Bush was brain dead, and Edwards remarking that you had to be an idiot to vote for Bush. We're talking about various editorials and commentary observing that fundamentalists in the US were essentially the same as Islamic fundamentalists, and claiming that the real war on terror should include stamping out certain religious beliefs in this country.We're talking about the fact that independent recounts in Florida showed that the 2000 election there was truly close, but not stolen or illegitimate - yet it somehow became McAuliffe gospel that Bush was an illegitimate president who had stolen the presidency and subverted the Supreme Court.

Do you know what all this looks like to the people I work with, shop with, and talk with? They think the national Democratic leadership has gone insane. They think their local Democratic politicians are just fine. Unfortunately, if this sort of rhetoric continues their local Democratic politicians are going to switch parties.Some of my neighbors may have high school educations, but they read newspapers on the internet. The days when an article or editorial written in the New York Times denigrating their religious beliefs (which don't include killing gay people, by the way, or shunning them, or excluding them from their churches) would not be read and understood in the small town where I live are OVER. Long past. Ancient history. If the Democratic party decides in the wake of the 2004 election that it must turn its despair upon religious believers, it is doomed as a national party.

So yes as Republicans and Conservatives even though we have problems we can be thankful for this. It appears that the Liberals and Democrats have not learned their lesson since 2004.

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A Day in the Shreveport Mayor's Race- Trying to Get the Gay Vote

Well since we have the whole town running for mayor of Shreveport Louisiana every segment of the community is being sought. It seems like the Shreveport Homosexual Community was the latest target to hear the sales pitches. I swear I am not making any of the following up: From the Shreveport Times on August the 19th-

"He's usually pretty witty, but a joke by Shreveport mayoral candidate Jerry Jones fell flat at the recent forum of the Political Action Council for Equality, a bipartisan organization that works to advance equality among the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in northwest Louisiana.In his opening remarks before answering a question about how to bring creative young people to the city, Jones said, "I don't understand why there's discrimination. For instance, I wish I had talent. Why is it that most talent, artistic talent, exists with gay lesbians and not us heterosexuals? I don't get it. I would like to be able to draw. I would like to be able to sing. And I can't. ... But what I do understand is this, is that I want to be around those talented people. I want to be around people who lift me up and lift my soul up. And I can look at their art, and I can listen to their music. I can listen to their plays and watch them perform. And it lifts my soul up. So Shreveport needs to be a place, must be a place, to which creative people are attracted."The comment raised a few eyebrows among people who questioned if it perpetuates a stereotype. The Times asked Jones to clarify the comment."I think what I was trying to say was there are people who are artistic and people who are talented, and we want those people. And we want those people no matter what their particular lifestyle will be."

Candidate Wilson McMullan showed up late from work at Vitamin Plus and spoke only for about 45 seconds at the end of the forum. He wore a "If you vote for Pedro, all of your wildest dreams will come true" T-shirt, a reference from the movie "Napoleon Dynamite."Following is what two of the other candidates had to say.

Vernon Adams Answering a question about whether he’d invite an openly gay person to work in his administration: “Even though it’s not ordained by the Bible, in choosing my committees, I will certainly surround myself with the most brilliant, dedicated men and women I can find. And if I know there is a person that falls in that category, then I will have to look at it. Does that person know Jesus Christ as his personal savior? If he does, then he will enter the gates of heaven one day, just like I will. But if that person does not know the Lord as his personal savior, then he will not serve on my committee.”

Madjun Ali - Answering a question about whether he would support language in the city law that would indicate it wouldn’t tolerate discrimination against sexual orientation: “You can’t make a straight person accept a gay person. But what you can do, if you want to operate within the realms of my city, you will have to accept it. Meaning there’s going to a zero-tolerance to any discrimination of any sort. As mayor of this city, I will not discriminate against anyone. If you have a business plan that you want to bring into this city, and you’re not straight like an arrow, you might be crooked like an S, I’m not going to discriminate on your personal business.”Answering a question on how to deal with educating people, particularly young ones, about the ongoing issue of AIDS awareness: “We’re not going to be able to reach out and touch everybody and cure them. We’re not going to be able to tell each young lady and young man that, hey, your prom date is bad. You really can’t stop it. You have to let them know that it’s there. I know what the sex ed (does): It stirs your imagination. You can’t keep them out of the bushes, but you can let them know there’s a bad bug in there.”Answering a question about whether he’d invite an openly gay person to work in his administration: “The gay population is growing like any other population. We don’t know why it grows, we don’t know, it just grows, it happens. It ends up, that’s something that happens. So, no, we can’t exclude someone with their sexual orientation. s long as you don’t come to the city board and try to recruit. Keep it with yourself. Take it home and deal with it the way you do. How you get down, that’s you. When we’re at work, we’re at workIf they want to be on a city board, then OK. A.”

There is more hilarious Commentary at MarshalFanninblog on this whole scene plus be sure to check out the comments-

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Monday, August 21, 2006

Minuteman- Minutegate Update

The Southern Poverty Law Center has issued another report on the Minuteman Mess. A word on the the SPLC. I think of course it is apparent they are a liberal organization. However I have found that there reporting on this issue has been quite good. The only thing I think they should double check on so far is a certain email that they attributed to Laine Lawless. For her side go here . Even though I do not agree with Mrs Lawless, I thought that supposed "email" seemed to be mighty weak evidence of evidence of association with violent Nazi like characters. I find it weak because there is so no explanination of how they know she wrote it. Also Mrs Lawless has a good defense. Why would Nazi's want to associate with a Lesbian that has had numerous lovers of color. I think in fairness that should re examined.

Nethertheless, I think much of their reporting is good. This blog has the newest piece they produced. Two things of interest. One there are several good quotes from the Washington Times Newspaper that we have not heard before. Also, some of American caging's problems are mentioned for the first time outside just blog and forum land.
There is one thing I believe they are incorrect on. They state the mysterious Diener and Associates is based out of Chicago. I am not sure if that is correct. The only Diener and Associates I could locate in Chicago does not appear to be in this type of business. Perhaps the SPLC can clarify that. Anyway a good read and gives a good recap of what is going on. I suspect this will prompt more of the MSM to investigate this story.

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Well the LSU/USL game is fastly approaching. It is the opening game for the LSU Tigers this year and will of course be held at Tiger Stadium. The University of Louisiana at Lafayette(formally USL) which is located about a hour away from Baton Rouge is the opposing team. Lets just say there is no love lost between the two schools.

One of the best things Skip Bertman did in my opinion was having LA Tech and ULL play LSU in alternate years. LSU fans hate that as a genral rule but I think they are shortsighted. This is on the whole good for football in Louisiana as a whole. PLus, I am a Tech Fan also.

Anywho, if you have an interest in this game you might wish too bookmark this post. I shall be trying to keep track of all the amusing threads on different fan web sites that will be talking about the game. This will include LSU and ULL threads in all fairness. So enjoy the fun as I try to keep up with how fans from both schools bash each other. IF you have a thread or a forum I have missed just leave a comment or a email

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Question for ULL fans about the Ragin Cajun band -

LSUv.LL-LSU is favored by 30.5-What's your take?

ULL based Threads
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When chosing college.... was LSU a choice for you?

the term to fit all UL fans


UL's Realistic Chances against LSU -30.5

LSU Ticket sales in Lafayette Parish (created from tangent)

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Senator McCain Comes to Louisiana

Well the good Senator made a stop in Louisiana as a part of his unoffical 08 campaign. This by the was is one stop out of many that MCCain has been making in the South. HE also has appeared at major State Party events in South Carolian and Mississippi for instance.

The Advocate has the full report. Here are some excerpts:
who will do anything to win the 2008 presidential election? Or, is the man who is considered the front-runner for the Republican nomination two years out the one candidate who can truly unify a fractured national electorate?
Those questions lingered over the lunch last Wednesday at the Old State Capitol in Baton Rouge where McCain addressed about 180 party faithful. That McCain would make the trip to Louisiana to speak with what is considered a conservative audience is bound to agitate moderate Democrats — so called Reagan Democrats — whom McCain has a good chance of attracting.....Some viewed the speech to the Louisiana GOP no differently from McCain’s trip last spring to Liberty University as the guest of the Rev. Jerry Falwell. Aligning himself with the right wing of the party isn’t McCain being McCain, critics say.
Others see it no differently from Hillary Clinton in a photo opportunity with former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
“If you want to be president, you’re going to have to break some eggs,” said Stephen Hess, a political analyst with the liberal Brookings Institution in Washington and a journalism professor at George Washington University. “That’s the product of having a two-party system, you have to pull from the other side.”
John Samples, director of representative government at the Cato Institute in Washington, viewed the Louisiana trip as the continued morphing of McCain. Through the ’90s, McCain built his reputation as a tough-talking maverick. In the 2000 presidential primary, he learned the power of the Republican right wing, which knocked him out of the presidential race in the South Carolina primary........Louisiana state Sen. Tom Schedler sees it a different way. Schedler, chairman of the Senate Republican delegation, contends that McCain just might be the candidate who could move the Republican base toward the center.
“It’s too early to tell, but he’s the kind of candidate we can win with,” Schedler said. “He can pull over those conservative Democrats. You’re going to have to moderate and McCain offers you that.”
Whenever you talk about McCain in Louisiana, one name surfaces: Roy Fletcher. The political consultant ran McCain’s 2000 race in Louisiana and will likely be the point man in 2008. Fletcher has heard the concerns about McCain moving too far to the right, but dismisses them.
“I think the party realizes that he’s in a place they need to be,” Fletcher said. “He’s very clear about where he is and where he has been so he isn’t new.”
Fletcher doesn’t view McCain’s stops in Louisiana or Liberty University as adversarial to Reagan Democrats.
“I don’t think it’s a matter of corrupting himself,” Fletcher said. “These (Republican) people are Americans, they pay taxes and they have issues. You have to win a nomination before you can win an election

First let me say that I find the entire tone of article sort of idiotic. First, when was John McCain viewed as some liberal? Sure people in the politcal square tried to portray him as that but it is not reality. Senator McCain has always been a pretty reliable conservative vote. True, I disagreed and still disagree with him on campaign finance reform but that issue is not really a litmus test as to ones political beliefs. Further, maybe its me but I have not heard any overriding concerns that some how John McCain is veering to the extreme right. I have no idea where that is coming from.

However, I thought this quote takes the cake:"That McCain would make the trip to Louisiana to speak with what is considered a conservative audience is bound to agitate moderate Democrats — so called Reagan Democrats — whom McCain has a good chance of attracting.....Some viewed the speech to the Louisiana GOP no differently from McCain’s trip last spring to Liberty University as the guest of the Rev. Jerry Falwell. Aligning himself with the right wing of the party isn’t McCain being McCain, critics say" What? Who is spreading this nonsense. Talking to Louisiana Republicans is now Taboo? They make it sound like we are the freakin John Birch society down here. I find frankly the whole premise of this article pretty insulting.

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Examples of How the Immigration Debate is getting out of Control.

One more post on immigration today.

I receive many emails and comments from people that complain that they are viewed unfairly. They are from people that I would say have a pretty hardline approach to immigration. They say that they are not racist , don't hate mexicans, and are not extremist. I believe them. I think it is wrong to think that all these people are. They have valid concerns. Mostly we differ on the soultions. However I must say if people dont like those charges then they need to be honest why they are not going away. I hate when Liberals play the "race" card. I hate it often because it is not true. But that does not mean that elements that promote hatred and racism do not exist.

One problem with what is portrayed in the media as the "conservative" approach to immigration is often I think the leaders of these factions are unhinged. When Simcox hired Diener and Associates to handle the PR that in itself was a good idea. Political movements and messages must be controlled or they lose focus. Also, people that should not be the messengers often become them. The message becomes hijacked. In a course of a few months this debate has gone from border security to topics that are just insane. Now I am hearing from people of secret plans to merge the USA, Mexico, and Canada. Elements in these groups have even started planting the wildest notions of Jewish Conspiracies. When Simcox hired a outside group for PR that was a good idea. The problem is that groups main concern was scamming $$$$$$$$ and not PR.

Recent examples-
Big Hat tip to The Pink Flamingo that brings attention to this disturbing report from Colorado. It seems that there was a meeting held in that State on this issue. I shall just quote part of it but I urge to to go to the Pink Flamingo for the full quotes links and background-
At this meeting the Denver Post reported:

In Aurora, Shirley Ortega Beamer urged Beauprez to work for legal changes that would revoke the identification documents of illegal immigrants before they are deported.
We have got to take the political backbone to say we will implement a shoot-to-kill order," Beamer said, prompting cheers from the crowd of about 100 people gathered in the Aurora City Council chamber.

Now I realize that one cannot control every nut that gets ups and speaks. However what is disturbing here is that the Crowd reaction!!!!!! Now I am not a idiot. I know that hearing was packed with Colorado MInutemen supporters. We just better hope that some enterprising Democractic political person doesnt air that on a Nationwide TV ad. No one mainstream ,conservative or liberal, in this Country supports killing women and children at the border.


However that was not the only example that got reported. I reported on a group of Texas Minutemen that went to a Republican Lunch meeting in very conservative Texas. Needless to say the Republicans were horrified. This is just a part from the Star Telegram's Few minutes with Minutemen is plenty of time for GOP group.

"When a Minutewoman from Dallas started complaining that ranchers can shoot diseased cattle at the border but not humans, and blamed permissive immigration on the "greedy business people" of America, their Republican host finally had enough and stood to cut off questions.
"Thank you," said Dan Garcia, 29, an Iraq war veteran and now a Texas A&M University student. Almost apologetically, he told the Brazos County Young Republicans, "Our goal was just to set up a forum where we could hear different opinions."
Later, he said the discussion "got out of hand a little too quickly."
"I don't think disease should be part of the issue," said Garcia, a Brownsville native and the son of immigrants from Mexico who earned doctorates. "Some of the things they said, I totally disagree with. As Republicans, we're not xenophobes. We just want to know who's coming into the country
."...... small group of Hispanic students and adults from Texas A&M University watched from a front table. Hispanic students have been part of the Gig 'Em tradition since at least 1894, when an Aggie from Hidalgo, Mexico, named N. Valdez scored A&M's very first football touchdown.
They bristled when McGauley's co-founder, a retired Dallas software engineer named Sandra Beene, started talking about shooting "varmints" and about how ranchers used to shoot cattle that crossed the border for fear they might have diseases.
"Now, we're bringing all the diseases that we wiped out right back in," she said.
Then, a barber from Bryan spoke up from the crowd to complain about trucks from Mexico using the planned Trans-Texas Corridor toll superhighway.
"Trucks are going to roll all the way into Kansas City from a foreign nation," McGauley said as if free trade is somehow sinister.
He mentioned the secret "plan" to merge North America, which must not be a secret up in Wise County.
Late in the discussion, Beene made this telling comment:
"Once, in this country, we imported a lot of people who were black, and we created a slave class of human beings," she said. "And we're still paying for that, through all the resentment. And black people are still paying for it, too

A few things to note. The person that brought that delegation to that Republican meeting is a huge person in the minuteman movement. In fact he is doing a lot to expose this Minutegate scam. So this is a major leader involved. Second, I think it is important to note how very Conservative Republicans reacted to this madness. It is apparent to say the least they did not approve. This stuff is occuring on a daily. Again lets thank God there were no TV Cameras present. The fact that conservatives Republicans repudiated such nonsense would not be noted in such a political commerical.


Jim Gilchrist, who is the major leader of the minutemen last week wanted to boycott Ford because a Girl said one word of Spanish in the Commercial.

Jim Gilchrist, founder of the California-based Minuteman Project and co-author of "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," thought it was just a another truck ad -- until Bilingual Babe speaks Spanish to Manuel. That made him mad."It's part of the Trojan horse domination of our culture. Now they're coming after our language," he says by telephone from New York, where he is on book tour. "It's another steppingstone in a literal takeover of our country, eventually. . . . I'm supportive of a boycott of Ford, because now they'll be complicit.

Now that is a major leader in the anti illegal alien movement. I mean the average public hears this and goes WTF? You can't make this stuff up.

This debate is getting out of control and losing focus fast. Needless to say we have not had a civil discourse on this issue like the President asked us too. TOo much of this gets out in the public square and even fawning Lou Dobbs of CNN will be able to save all us Republicans regardless of where we stand on this issue from being tarred with this.

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Immigration -The debate continues and a Plea to the Hardliners

Once we get behind the problems of Minutegate we still have the problems of what we are going to do about this problem of illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is still a great problem that has to cured.

Called as Seen has two great post. First a Post on Pat Buchanan's new book about the problem. That post is called aptly in my view: The Right's "Earth in the Balance". I thinks it is apt because some of the scare theories I have been having hearing from the extreme hardline folks is much like what I hear from Al Gore on the environment.

A second important post Called As Seen has done this today again shows why the arguments against President Bush's plan are misleading. I think it poinsts out some important truths.

Also I urge you to examine this post on the consequences of this no compromise approach. You see besides the 200,000 Irishmen that are here illegally there are ton of people from China. Many overstayed visas because of the obvious problems of living under that regime. Well China will it appears will not accept any of the illegals here unless we turn over the people that are politcal dissidents too. Go to Wild Turkey's Forum for the article and the discussion. Again, this problem is complex.

I agree with all of these post 100 percent.

A couple of points. I am a subscriber to several email blasts that the hardline uses to get their message out. I keep hearing it is the House Bill versus the Senate bill. Of course this is misleading. There are things in the Senate bill that of course need to be taken out. Everyone knows though that the legislators will not have such a stark choice just between the two bill as in present form. The key was to get something to a conference committee. What comes out of there will look nothing like the Senate bill. That is reality and this current argument that is going around saying otherwise is pretty false and misleading. At the end of the day the House as well as the Senate have to give an up and down vote on what comes out.

Second we must look at the political considerations. I have always said that the hardliners are playing this immigration poker game with a extremely weak hand. It seems their is a view that the Republicans and conservatives will hold the House forever and thus be able to stall this forever or be able to get what they want once they have their people in the Senate. This is folly. There is a reasonable chance that the House will change hands this year. I didn't say likely but it is the wind. What happened down in Texas regarding Delay's seat this past week didn't help matters.

If people don't like dealing with House Republicans on immigration then they are going to hate what a House controlled by the Dems will actually produce. In other words, by refusing to compromise, a bill that is way too liberal on immigration reform could get out. Right down, the House Repubs have leverage to have their concerns heard. That leverage will disappear if the House Dems take over. That is the natural consequence of a "My way or the Highway" approach". The question is if that happens what will the President Bush do in this situation? I suspect that the way he has been treated by the hardliners, there is a good chance he will tell them to go take a flying leap in the lake. If they don't like it they can take it up with him at his Presidential Library in the near future.

Lastly, Republicans and conservatives must now look at the long term political cost of the moves we are about to make. Most hispanics and Latinos in this country believe in border security and ending the illegal immigration problem. However, as I feared the message and the marketing of the "hardline" approach has gotten out of hand. Hispanics and Latinos that actually shared the concerns of many of the hardliners are starting to turn against conservatives and Republicans. Who can blame them. There are many illegals that of course need to be deported. For instance the criminals and the people that leach off the system etc. However, the anti Hispanic and Mexican rethoric has just gotten out of hand. They are all called invaders, parasites, diseases carriers, not loyal, are involved in secret plots to take over, don't share our values etc. What once was said by the extreme is now becoming part of the mainstream debate. In a word a whole culture and ethnicity seems to be under attack. There have been warning signs of this. Hispanic Republicans have voiced concerns that they don't seem to be wanted anymore. When politicians listen to those concerns it is arrogantly called "hispandering". That is nonsense. I am a big supporter of Israel. I think it is prper to listen to concerns of the Jewish community. Should we call that "Jewpandering"? Of course not, and again shows that the term is both insulting and incorrect. The Republicans and conservatives need to show desperately that they can listen and be reasonable on this immigration issue.

The point is that we are not dealing with a people that is similar to a tribe of people that have been isolated from the modern World like we find in jungles of Brazil. We are dealing with a people that are products of Western Civilization. I find it shocking at times that decendants of Italians and Irish as well as the Eastern Europeans do not look at the state of affairs of the countries that their ancestors came from. In my view it was not much different.

In the end is this fact. Conservatives and Republicans will not hold the Government forever. If we are seen as uncompromising on this issue and refuse to listen to valid concerns then the democrats will take advantage of it in the future. What shall be produced will make the Senate bill look like Nivernia in retrospect.

There are valid concerns about such issues as wages, border security, assimilation ,etc. I share those concerns. However those valid conserns will not be listened to in the future by other parties if this "My way or the Highway approach" that is embraced by the Tancredo faction is allowed to continue. Again some conservatives are playing poker with a very weak hand. The Democrats know that the typical hardliner on immigration will never be their voter. I think that is pretty apparent. If they take power there will be no listening to the valid concerns that groups like the minutemen have such as I listed above. Republicans and conservatives must act now and get a bill passed this year.

In essence it comes down to this. Many Republicans both elected and just average folks that believe in a comprehensive approach have had many false charges leveled against us. We have been accused of being involved with some open borders lobby, of being involved in secret neo con plots, of being shrills for big business , etc. The problem is that many now seem to believe the propaganda that they have been promoting . Most people like myself want the illegal immigration problem to be ended. We want real border security border. In this post 9-11 world who doesn't? We have concerns about a orderly immigration process and assimilation. We have concerns about the local communities that are struggling with social services that relate to this issue. However, we also have concerns that countless millions of familes that will be broken up. That familes will have absent fathers and mothers. Those are real problems that the extreme fails to look at. A situation that could cause real social and economic problems for the future. For those that follow the Tancredo approach, the choice is clear. Deal with us or deal later with people that might be in control that will be a lot less receptive to listening your views and concerns. We in effect are not going away. We have valid moral , economic, and social concerns. I shall not sell my soul and agree to a massive deportation or starve familes till the illegal member of that family unit leaves. Thus still creating dire economic straits for those family members that are American. To my fellow conservatives and republicans. We believe in 80 percent of the same things on this issue. Compromise on the other 20 now or risk getting nothing in the future. That is the political reality.

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