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Tuesday, August 08, 2006

MinuteGate Update Gilchrist Attempting Damage Control

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Note for some reason the real funny part of this pic is not appearing. Please go to original source here to get the full humorous effect. Also Registered has a very amusing pic on the front page too.

I received this reference to this blog post in my comment section today. I shall print it in full. I also shall offer my comments on the substance of that post. Thank you "OBL Propaganda exposer" for keeping me informed

TheTownCrierAug 7, 2006This morning Jim Gilchrist was interviewed on the Bill Meyer Show, KMED Radio. Gilchrist, the founder of the MinuteManProject and co-author of " Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders ", told those interested to contact him and the MMP through the Minutemanproject.com web site only, NOT JimGilchrist.com, which was used by professional fundraisers for his congressional run last year. He said,
"that website has been hijacked and lawyers are working on getting it straightened out". For over a year the proponents of lax border security and mass illegal immigration have tried every political and media trick they could to discredit the MinuteManProject. You know the ones: The ACLU, LaRaza, Grover Norquist, Harry Reid, John McCain, RINO's, The Catholic Church, shills on internet forums, The President! According to them, the Minutemen were a bunch of vigilantes, just waiting to bag a "brown" one! NOT one minuteman decided what color the majority of these illegal invaders would be. The MMP is made up of ALL races, religions, ethnicities, just as illegal aliens are.That dog never did hunt!The Minutemen proved them all wrong in this year plus at the borders and in their activism across this nation. They have acted with dignity and restraint.


Never a reported violent act against an illegal alien, though there have been dozens from the invadersRus crowd against MMP participants, which is ignored and often encouraged.But those are the tactics they use, race baiting and unproven accusations, because there is no good reason to continue "as usual". Then a few weeks ago, some people on the anti-illegal side started questioning the money handlers surrounding Chris Simcox, founder of Arizona's Civil Defense Corps, which he later changed to MinutemenCivilDefenseCorps after Gilchrist formed the MMP. The two groups were never "one".There are dozens of totally independent minute men groups under their own leadership across the country. It's a "grass roots" sort of the thing, precisely what corrupt power hates the most. The OBL is now "embellishing" this situation with Simcox, his well known beltway fundraising mechanism and his "security fence" in yet another attempt to dismiss and insult the entire MMP movement by proclaiming that "if one could be tainted, they are all tainted".YET, they refuse to admit that ignoring the rule of law by allowing as many as 30 million foreign nationals to break into this country with no recourse does taint every immigrant and citizen.

The legal ones get to learn yet another language, besides the required English, because one minority demands it and wait for years to immigrate legally. Most naturalized citizens understand how absurd our entire system is. The innocent illegal ones are exploited and abused by the criminal element so rampant in their own societies. They realize all too well that they are merely some rich man's "commodity". Did that look like "appreciation" when millions of them marched and chanted in our streets last spring?The irony is so thick you could wall up the entire border with it.In 2004, the minute man project was an idea created by Jim Gilchrist, Californian, retired CPA, US Veteran. The concept was given voice in late 2004 on KDWN Radio, from Las Vegas on the Wake Up America Show with Mark Edwards, with Jim calling in as a concerned citizen, recognizing the country and government and rule of law are at a breaking point over uncontrolled and often encouraged illegal immigration along with the crime, drugs, disease that flow in with them.Chris Simcox was one of thousands who followed the lead of Jim GilChrist. GilChrist and Simcox are and always have been separate and distinct entities that found a common cause and time. Gilchrist let the big DC PR people Simcox uses help handle his campaign last year and has seen fit to brake free of them since, with the exception of getting his name removed from a web site in their control leftover from the campaign. It doesn't seem like a lot to ask to have final say how and where your own name is used.

But then fairness didn't stop a Latino professor and his crowd from showing up at Jim Gilchrist's home in protest before the MMP ever took place last year.Some say that Simcox, or the PR conglomerate in charge of his operations, is not keeping promises to construct a security fence on the border with collected donations. Gilchrist and the MMP have never been involved with that project. As Jim said, "we're not fence builders". Time will tell, but to assume the entire MMP is somehow tied to Simcox, et al, is as silly as thinking all republicans love John McCain or George Bush!The 5 to 10 percent of voters, who constitute the OBL and would squander all that is good about this country by continuing our broken borders, want you to think about one guy in Arizona instead of the 5, 000 to 10,000 aliens illegally entering each and every day in this country. Afraid they might not make the money mismanagement charge stick, they are even calling Simcox a racist again, which has never been demonstrated. They so want to find someone to discredit, when all else fails they yell, "liar!, racist!"Illegal alien enthusiasts, think about this:President Bush just made another "mission" accomplished" speech about his 6,000 National guard border patrollers, otherwise know as his carrot of "enforcement" to hide the stick of amnesty.But there isn't 6,000 and they aren't protecting the border. Would he lie???
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-minute-men-are-not-created-equal.html

First let me comment as to the Gilchrist situation. I find it important that Gilchrist is making public his break with the Keyes/Mary Parker Lewis/Sheldon. This is a important development. I suspect that tounges will be wagging over this. The Simcox faction is unraveling.

Now on to the other things mentioned in this letter. To the the Town Crier. I think this foolishness is getting out of hand and needs to stop.

OBL- meaning Open Borders Lobby that often I hear the minutemen and their advocates use is a silly term .Yes I suppose among the radical left there is some concept of the open borders to which they want. However many including me that support a comprehensive approach do not support a Open border concept. We also want security on the border and control. We view that as a important part of the solution. Just because we disagree on the solution , does not mean it gives you the right to mischaracterize a position. Enough of this silliness. It gets us no where and as Americans we should be above that.

You mention "The ACLU, LaRaza, Grover Norquist, Harry Reid, John McCain, RINO's, The Catholic Church, shills on internet forums, The President. Your fellow Americans are shrills? Please more silliness. Also your conspiracy theories about the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church are not only un Christian but wrong. Time for serious discussion to the solution. Not internet conspiracy theories that frankly belong to the age of the 1800's.

You say "The OBL is now "embellishing" this situation with Simcox, his well known beltway fundraising mechanism and his "security fence" in yet another attempt to dismiss and insult the entire MMP movement by proclaiming that "if one could be tainted, they are all tainted". Really how so? I have mentioned your silly use of the term "obl" so lets move past that. What has been "embellished". This seems to go against the tenor of and tone of the first part of your statement. In fact on the internet these "shrills" as you call them have been very pointed in their concerns.

You said "The 5 to 10 percent of voters, who constitute the OBL and would squander all that is good about this country by continuing our broken borders, want you to think about one guy in Arizona instead of the 5, 000 to 10,000 aliens illegally entering each and every day in this country."
Again enough of this. I suppose again what you mean by "OBL" are people that agree on a comprehensive approach. Please look at the polls. Most indicate that the American people want a comprehensive solution. It is time to get out of the echo chamber that many are in where they just here the comfort of of their own views. There is way too much political "astroturfing" as to this issue goingon. You can send out another million blast emails or flame internet Forums but that will not change the reality. It is time we conservatives start talking to each other on this issue and listening. Really listening.

You Say "YET, they refuse to admit that ignoring the rule of law by allowing as many as 30 million foreign nationals to break into this country with no recourse does taint every immigrant and citizen. The legal ones get to learn yet another language, besides the required English, because one minority demands it and wait for years to immigrate legally. " What are your proposals for reforming legal immigration? What should be the process? Are your conserns the legality of status or something more? Please clarify? Aloso you will notice that speaking English and assimilation is a concern of ours too. Please elaborate on what reforms you are advocating as to the legal system. Please we have a common goal here. Lets us not crucify each other as we try to find a solution. Also if your concerns are purely the legal status, then by all means denounce the Tanton Groups and their organizations such as FAIR, CIS, AND NUMBERS whose goal is not concerned with a persons status but a wild AL Gore like Population control theory. IF you endorse that please put it on the table. We need to be honest with each other and not attempt to make such a major policy happen through the back door.

You said "They so want to find someone to discredit, when all else fails they yell, "liar!, racist" I don't know many supporters of the comprehensive approach that think all minutemen are racist. You know that is true also. This is often a clever tactic to accuse people that disagree with you of being unseemly and unfair. Enough again of that nonsense. This blog and others have pointed out people such as the League of the South, The Council of Conservative Citizens, Stormfront and National Vanguard people that have and are trying to become part of your movement. That is of concern Instead of damning us you should be thanking us for exposing that riftraft. Again lets stop playing games here please. Millions of lives will be effected. You are good Americans and should not fall for those PT Barnum like debating points. Also tell Gilchrist to qiut appearing on shows like the racist and anti jewish political cesspool show out of Memphis. Tell him to be careful that is all. I know he is busy. But many people are using you for their own motives. Prudence and extra care is needed.That would help. Denounce it from the hilltops. That is as important as anything. Beyond the fence and immigration issue the World views you as representing conservatives. We conservatives have an obligation to make sure that name "conservative" and "Republican" is not muddied in the public square.

Lastly keep up the good work on exposing graft. If you have taken the time to look at this issue and how it is playing out on the net, you would see that issue has gone far beyond this fence or even the immigration debate. It has gone to a larger issue of how conservative are getting scammed on many levels out of hard earned dollars in numerous causes. Again it is just not about you . I might disagree with you on some aspects of this issue, but I have no doubt you have this Country's best interest at heart. All I ask for is that you consider that we have the same goal and love of this country.

Note-slight editing has occured that is not in the Town Criers comment section. That editing was limited to some of the most galring typos I made. My reference to the Mormon Church Conspiracy theory is not in reference to what this poster said. However that conspiracy theory has been gaining ground. Especially since the defeat of the Tancredo backed canaidate in the recent Republican primary.





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